tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post1988500966027337601..comments2023-07-01T00:39:39.762-07:00Comments on Father Geoff Farrow: When the Church married Same-Sex couples.Father Geoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03904564207135202567noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-37752574537059252872012-07-17T19:56:58.286-07:002012-07-17T19:56:58.286-07:00I just posted a link to this article on the blog o...I just posted a link to this article on the blog of an Anglo-Catholic Episcopal church in which they were discussing (in part) the approval of same-sex blessings in the Episcopal Church which recently passed in their general Convention (July 2012). Some of the comments were quite backwards and homophobic as usual. I find this ironic, as I have attended this church a few times and can safely say that the vast majority of the males in the congregation as well as the clergy were obviously gay. I've been 'out' since 1977 and have very keen 'gaydar'. Thank you Fr Farrow for this valuable and information packed article!Gary Calderonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05359724175925639740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-36594589950668648112011-12-23T10:50:25.565-08:002011-12-23T10:50:25.565-08:00Dear DannyEastVillage,
Years ago I read about a y...Dear DannyEastVillage,<br /><br />Years ago I read about a young priest assigned to work at one of the various Vatican curial offices. <br /><br />The office had received a letter making a detailed academic case for the ordination of women. The young priest prepared a very detailed response, but before mailing it he showed the his response to his superior.<br /><br />The superior deleted everything in the priest's response letter except the first sentence.<br /><br />"We are in receipt of your letter to us dated ...."<br /><br />The Vatican is not interested in "dialogue"nor in research/discussion. It is interested in governing. Spirituality is simply the window dressing.Father Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03904564207135202567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-70524981087157920392011-12-23T03:15:20.285-08:002011-12-23T03:15:20.285-08:00Fr Geoff, I'd just like to add to your well wr...Fr Geoff, I'd just like to add to your well written piece that Dr Boswell was chairman of the Department of History at Yale at the time he did this work--and that he initially discovered same-sex union manuscripts by accident while researching another topic in the Vatican Archives. I suppose one may as well mention also that, when asked about Boswell's work, Vatican spokesmen "had no comment."DannyEastVillagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750210542282367398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-72420499134647231442011-12-23T03:12:32.933-08:002011-12-23T03:12:32.933-08:00Nice summary of Boswell's work here. I only w...Nice summary of Boswell's work here. I only want to add that Boswell was actually chairman of the Department of History at Yale.DannyEastVillagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750210542282367398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-76250925605812611982011-06-25T17:41:37.947-07:002011-06-25T17:41:37.947-07:00DO YOU LOVE?
It's not a question of "who...DO YOU LOVE?<br /><br />It's not a question of "who" you love<br />but do "you" love?<br /><br />Is love something you acquire?<br />Is love something you produce?<br />Is love something that you have?<br />Or is love something that has YOU?<br /><br />~<br /><br />Love embraces ALL without distinction<br />as Love knows no divide.<br /><br />REVEREND CAILEAN BENJAMINAmano Sakshinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12727084631678672214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-81151257885706212632011-06-25T17:38:28.788-07:002011-06-25T17:38:28.788-07:00Being religious and homosexual is not a problem.
I...Being religious and homosexual is not a problem.<br />Irreligious homophobia certainly is.<br /><br />REVEREND CAILEAN BENJAMINAmano Sakshinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12727084631678672214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-91398152292746911742011-02-21T12:25:17.070-08:002011-02-21T12:25:17.070-08:00This was a great article..
Thank you for posting ...This was a great article..<br />Thank you for posting it.<br /><br />I also want to say the new look you have given your blog is great.<br />Fr VinceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-38734598229687828492011-02-16T22:49:29.105-08:002011-02-16T22:49:29.105-08:00Dear Jake,
Thank you for your comments and insigh...Dear Jake,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments and insights. As regards the question of women marring women the article states “Another 14th century Serbian Slavonic "Office of the Same Sex Union", uniting two men or two women, had the couple…” Again, later it states “Another woman to woman union is recorded in Dalmatia in the 18th century.”<br /><br />As regards the “scare quotes,” I agree with you wholeheartedly; however, it is important to remember that this article was written in 1998, thirteen years ago. In that historical context, the “scare quotes” are understandable, although lamentable. <br /><br />I reprinted this article because; as Winston Churchill quipped, “the only thing new is the history you haven’t read.” Most people in general are unfamiliar with the late Dr. John Boswell’s work. I sincerely believe that if they were, it would greatly help our cause for social justice.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Fr. GeoffFather Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03904564207135202567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2850096231666604.post-19189279621167596302011-02-16T22:05:47.764-08:002011-02-16T22:05:47.764-08:00This was a great read. I had heard about Serge and...This was a great read. I had heard about Serge and Bacchus before, but this article was did a good job of briefly and clearly explaining their often-forgotten story.<br />The only problem I had with the article was that every time it talked specifically about a marriage between two men, it always put the word marriage in "scare-quotes".<br /><br />Another odd thing I've always noticed in stories like this one, and when studying the Bible's take on homosexuality in general, is that women are never addressed. This article talks about the "Order for Uniting Two Men," but what about the women? Were lesbians not also allowed to marry? I know that the Bible and Christianity is often painted as existing in a patriarchal society, but does that mean that women had no rights what so ever?<br /><br />I'll leave it there before I get into 'conspiracy-theory' territory. I just find it very odd that people are always finding passages for (or against) the marriage of two men, but never <i>anything</i> for <i><b>or</b></i> against the marriage of two women.Jake M.noreply@blogger.com